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My application was rejected, but I am not satisfied with the decision.

OOtakosan
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The artwork that was under review earlier has been rejected with a result. The content was two gal girls in swimsuits at a summer beach, happily playing around by spraying water on each other with a hose from a water pipe. I didn't create this piece for erotic purposes; I just wanted to depict gals having fun, so I thought it would be fine, but it wasn't. I think the reason is likely that they were wearing bikinis (since they're gals) and the exposed skin area was large. So I don't intend to complain about the rejection itself. I fully understand it's the site's policy, and if it's not allowed, I'll comply.

The problem is from here: the rejected work was made with GPT and cost 8 credits. On my end, I spent a considerable amount of time creating it, and now that the piece I thought was fine can't even be posted to the gallery, I'm just losing credits—a real kick in the teeth. So I don't mind the rejection, but could you at least refund the credits? I sincerely ask for your kind consideration.

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たかはしがに·

I understand your feelings, but I think returning the credits seems like a borderline case. Personally, I believe that posting the generated images to the gallery is a matter of individual freedom, and the review criteria do not change regardless of whether the images are paid or free. To put it more bluntly, this could be misused: if the review fails, someone might think, "I'll get the credits back and save the generated images," effectively generating paid images for free. Since this is the first such case, they might make an exception and return the credits, but if they allow it for one person, it would be difficult to handle when others start abusing it by saying, "If they got it, why can't we?" So it's probably better to assume that the credits won't be returned.

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OtakosanOP·

I understand what Takahashi-gani-san says, and I thought, "I see, so there are people who misuse it that way."
But I believe that works are meant to be seen by people, and there's no point in having works that no one sees.
What bothers me most about this incident is that I previously posted an image of a girl in a bikini, and it went through the review process and was successfully posted. If the criteria are changed, I won't know what I can post.
Also, I don't want people to think "I bet the pose was erotic or something," so I'll upload a test piece made with another AI. The details are different, but the rejected work was roughly like this.
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As you can see, if this is rejected, should I understand that I am not to make girls in bikinis from now on?
That way, I won't waste credits.

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たぬー·

Probably, it seems the bikini is going to review just by the word. It appears as per the earlier comment about the line. For gallery review, this kind of work has a low chance of passing. For community introduction, the criteria are different, so there is a possibility it can be posted, though.

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たかはしがに·

I really understand how you feel.
Since I'm also only interested in sensitive art, I'm passionate about how to create erotic content without getting caught by the censors. I try to post once a day to complete my missions, but if I'm going to post anyway, I think it's better to make something slightly erotic that catches the eye. However, I've often been flagged by the censors and had to redo things, thinking, "Even this isn't allowed?!" I've gotten caught so many times that I almost hit the daily limit of 30 posts. There are many times when I really want to improve the quality, but I end up making something utterly mediocre and just think, "Whatever, this is fine," and upload a half-baked image. Well, I'm mainly doing this for my own enjoyment, so I'm not really posting as a main activity.

Anyway, it's just a matter of forcibly creating a bikini without using the word "bikini."
"Bikini" is a no-go, but "swimsuit" is okay, so if I fudge it with a vague description like "a swimsuit that separates into top and bottom," I can eventually make a bikini after a few tries. Since you can create things for free as much as you want, just enjoy it like pulling a gacha and keep trying through trial and error. There's an element of randomness. To be honest, think of passing or failing the review as a gacha too. And I can't take responsibility if you use paid models, of course.

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OtakosanOP·

Takahashigani-san, Tanuu-san, thank you for your comments.

Takahashi game-san, (likely reading this) > SNoW-san

My previous reply may have sounded harsh due to my excitement. Please forgive me if I offended you.
Thank you for all the advice.

Tanuu-san

This, right? Personally, I don't think any of them are problematic, but…
7. What are the criteria for R15?
・Honestly, it's quite difficult to put 100% accurate criteria into words. In the end, it largely depends on "how the viewer feels when looking at the image." If you get a vaguely suggestive vibe, it's close to being considered R15.
・Common patterns include "specific poses/expressions/angles," "close-ups of certain body parts," "overemphasized cleavage or cleavage being the main focus of the image," "a bikini that doesn't fit the scene," etc. (Of course, this is not limited to these.)
・If you think "this might be a bit risqué" at the time of posting, it's also an option to hold off on publishing it :)

After taking some time and thinking it over, I've given up on getting the credits back. It's fine now.
I will no longer post risqué illustrations.

More importantly, I have a request for SNoW-san.
There's a resolution switch, "Standard" and "1K", right?
Could you please make it so that once I switch to "1K", it stays even when I move to another AI?
Every time I use a different AI, the resolution reverts to "Standard",
this is very troublesome, and I often forget to switch, so I've been thinking for a while that I wish something could be done about it.
The quality setting "Detail Enhancement" is retained when switching to another AI, so I'd like the same to be done for this.
Please, I beg of you.

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日本國を応援する会·

I went for an inspection with the battleships Yamato and Musashi, something about copyright?

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OtakosanOP·

Probably because it's a weapon. Pistols, knives, etc., immediately go to inspection.

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SNoW·

Rather than copyright, if weapons are depicted, it tends to get tagged as "violence" and be sent to manual review.
If you're curious about what content is subject to review, the explanation of OpenAI's omni moderation model is a useful reference👇
https://note.com/ai_tec/n/nca200e284e2e

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日本國を応援する会·
@SNoW

I cannot open it.

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日本國を応援する会·

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こばと🕊️_ダヴ(DOVE)·

I just checked, and a bikini from behind is OK. Since Nanachi from Abyss is also OK, it seems copyright issues are not relevant either. Also, the prompt is OK. In conclusion, it's a bug in the AI automatic judgment.

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こばと🕊️_ダヴ(DOVE)·

It was also okay to make Yamato into a miniature. Aura! Bring it on!

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SNoW·

Thank you for your feedback!
The illustration you submitted was very beautiful, and the overall atmosphere was lovely. The main reason for rejection was that the angle looking up from below felt a bit concerning given the scene and the level of exposure.

Imagine this: if you went to the beach with a female friend, would you take a photo from a similar perspective and post it on social media? If not, what would be the reason for your hesitation? That hesitation is exactly what I felt when I saw that post.

Of course, the world of anime and illustration is not as strict as reality, and such angles are often not intentional. It's entirely possible that generating the same prompt again would yield a different angle. So, there were valid arguments for both accepting and rejecting that piece, but I decided not to include it in the public gallery to avoid an increase in similar submissions.

It's absolutely fine to raise questions like this. In fact, it gives us a chance to reconsider the review criteria and discuss them together. If you have any other opinions, please feel free to share them.

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日本國を応援する会·

I've successfully posted here!!

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たぬー·

I see, it's an angle. Low angle certainly takes a lot too.

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